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Good Article nomination has failed
The Good article nomination for Acne vulgaris has failed, for the following reason(s):
- the symptoms section contains some information I was lacking in the causes section.
- There should be a classifications section, explaining what other forms exist outside acne vulgaris, e.g. chloracne
- Some information on whiteheads and blackheads should be mentioned in this article
The intro should mention puberty.- I suggest a differtial diagnosis and epidemiology section.
- There are some minor errors: e.g. P. Acnes instead of Propionibacterium acnes, Development of acne vulgaris in latter years, etc.
- It's not mentioned why it has a predilection for certain areas.
To summarise, I think is not organised enough yet, and some important information is missing. All comments are welcome! Steven Fruitsmaak 19:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I think it's worse actually, that we need an expert on the subject banner here. Look at all the disagreement and controversy on it. The snare 01:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Pictures
Those pics are disgusting! Shouldn't we perhaps apply more "encyclopedia-ish" ones?
A lot of pictures regarding medical things are disgusting, pretty much any medical encyclopedia or text has multitudes of pictures, of burns, keloid scars, tumors, bloody wounds and open bone fractures, that's just the way it is. You have to get used to it if you want to study medicine. Not that wikipedia is a comprehensive medical guide that doctors cite on their term papers, but it's more educational and accurate to see what the injury looks like than a text description. The snare (talk) 02:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
need a redirect for 'acne' lowercase, is that an admin thing?
Something to consider adding, though it's relatively new. Why stress is a factor, Substance P. Jamesday 03:34, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Yes, stress should be mentioned, how stress causes increased oil secretion in some people causes acne.--203.166.57.11 00:05, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Shall we go into detail about treatments and causes that are more controversial or only stick to what we know?--203.166.57.11 00:05, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I think these picutres are fine just they way they are as they depict reality instead of artwork Aujlakam 00:26, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
There is an available online resource Acne Vulgaris: Clinical Pictures and Treatment Info for additional clinical images of Acne Vulgaris. I think it would be helpful to add to the external links b/c it shows acne on a variety of skin types, body locations, and ages. I work closely with this site though so I do not feel comfortable adding it to the external links. Burrillr 15:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Nothing on popping zits?? --CJWilly
Male hormones, secreted oil, and skin particles don't "cause" bacteria, so I have trouble with bacteria being labeled an effect of acne. In the absence of the bacteria, pimples don't appear. Also, in the case of benzoyl peroxide at least, treatment can't be considered finished (until the hormone/skin oil causes subside) and acne will reappear within days if treatment is stopped. Yath 17:08, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I wrote some of those changes, the bacteria is the result of other things, but without it, no pimple, so it is a cause. Killing the infection gets rid of the pimple. I agree with changes to what I wrote.--203.166.57.11 00:05, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I'm wondering whether it's the cause of things too- it wouldn't surprise me if the presence of the bacteria didn't damage the skin and thus cause the skin to make more sebum; the skin would be trying to protect itself from damage. But the bacteria eats the sebum and emits chemicals that cause even more damage, so it's a vicious circle.
-WolfKeeper
Why have you removed all of my comments in your last revision lowry?? Some of them were good. --Komencanto 08:54, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
"Heat damaged food" as a cause of acne
Consumption of heat damaged foods. Proteins exposed to heat are altered in such a way that digestive enzymes are unable to break them down into constituent amino acids. These proteins are processed by lymph glands and excreeted through the skin. Due to the hydrophilic nature of protein, subcutaneous water pressure is increased which closes off sebum canals, trapping bacteria. A cyst is the result. - Boy does this sound like nonsence pseudoscience. Has anyone got a reference for this stuff???? (posted by anon)
Acne reduced by sun exposure?
Anybody heard about acne being reduced by sun exposure? I think I heard and read quite a bit about that in my time. It seems sun rays change the sebum chemically as well as plainly heating it and it can flow outwards easier.
It's a good news/bad news kind of deal.
The blue light in sunlight kills P.Acnes; this improves acne in the short-term.
However the UV light damages the skin, and then acne comes back worse than ever when P.Acnes recolonises.
I heard a claim that 90% of people had worse acne after sun exposure in the long term, but I have never tracked it back to the literature to check.
That's what the ClearLight/Dermalux lamps are about- they don't produce much if any UV light.
-WolfKeeper
The dermatologist I went to told me sunlight had no effect on it at all. The snare 04:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Sex?
This section should be deleted.
Okay, obviously the "sex/masturbation causes acne" myth needs to be addressed, but the current paragraph feels very uncertain. It states:
Sex. Rumours have had it that both celibacy and masturbation are causes for acne. This is not the case. It is notable however that masturbation and any other sexual activity affects hormone levels and thus bodily oil production.
My particular objection is to that last sentence, which contradicts the main sentence since it suggests that masturbating or not does have some effect on acne. Just for a start, are there any credible studies that show the effect masturbation has on hormone levels? If not, then that last sentence should be deleted. --LostLeviathan 05:53, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
it has been widely accepted that these are not true due to lack of scientific study on the subject I understand what this is trying to say, but on the other hand I don't think that a lack of study is generally accepted as proof of anything. Perhaps someone should change it to "there is nothing in the scientific literature to confirm this." 72.240.220.81 03:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
sex has a massive therapeutic value in all senses, concerning the aids a young person to achieve emotional completion.it is clear that young people in some kinds of societies are very misled about it so it's hard to trust who is writing the comments regarding it here
Diet
The article currently says:
Chocolate, chips, sugar, milk and seafood among others have not been shown to affect acne. This means that the scientific studies done to date did not find a big difference between acne in two groups of people, one group eating the food in question and one group avoiding it.
Could someone cite a source for this? Everything I've read suggests that no serious scientific studies have been done on this subject. --LostLeviathan 06:25, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Re. acne and diet, I already can pinpoint the flaw of the study design. Perhaps the reason people who eat a bad diet have no significant different # of acne is because they can from a genetic basis. A better study design would be to have a prospective study on the effect of diet on the acne-prone people. This article makes much more sense: http://www.choiceusa.net/news_articleAcne&Diet11.03.htm. --Skindr 14:15, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: Re. acne and diet, more mention should be made of the study linking hunter-gatherer populations with no incidences of acne and a different diet in comparison to what most Westerners with acne eat. Also, the theory of IGF-1 and acne that researcher Loren Cordain has proposed should be addressed, which would make up a decent basis for a diet-acne connection.
"One study suggested that chocolate, french fries, potato chips and sugar, among others, affect acne. A high GI (glycemic index) diet that causes sharp rises in blood sugar worsens acne" - chocolate and sugar aren't high GI
I'm fairly sure that something in the product Ovaltine (malt ch








